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Old Dec 17, 2007, 04:41 PM // 16:41   #741
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I believe the Elites that are rubbish now will get buffed by ANet (like WoH and LoD got buffed) and will become usefull.

Only one Elite will remain noobish:

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Old Dec 17, 2007, 05:52 PM // 17:52   #742
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I believe the Elites that are rubbish now will get buffed by ANet (like WoH and LoD got buffed) and will become usefull.

Only one Elite will remain noobish:

Unknown Junundu Ability
I highly doubt ANet (or Izzy and the balancing team) will take time to go through all the unused elites (which is a lot) and attempt to make them better. Lots will still be pretty useless, some will be overpowered and nerfed to pretty useless, and a few may be useful.
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Old Dec 17, 2007, 05:57 PM // 17:57   #743
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nice call TG, i honestly forgot about that skill. rethinking the post, i went and looked at them all again..

top picks:

amity
skull crack
tease
glimmering mark (sorry, i just dont find it worth "elite" status)
whirling axe (again.. this sucks if you play a real warrior)
primal rage (this would OWN if it was a skill, not a stance)
"coward!" (not worth your elite)
word of censure
balths pendulum
life sheath
weaken knees (what??)
skull crack?

[skill]Axe Rake[/skill][skill]Dismember[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Skull Crack[/skill][skill]Protector's Strike[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

maybe it's not good for PvE but don't leave out RA or TA

[skill]"Coward!"[/skill]

still works with sins in HA or GvG

[skill]Weaken Knees[/skill] + [skill]Defile Defenses[/skill]

isn't a bad combination for a support necro in TA either

Life Sheath is...bad?

as for the worst elites, imho, [skill]Archer's Signet[/skill] and [skill]Strike As One[/skill] <--- F. Strike/Rampage As One/Enraged Lunge if i'm gonna go Bunny or Spear Thumper and/or Feral Aggression if i'm going full BM

also [skill]"It's just a flesh wound."[/skill] really can't find any use for this-PvP or PvEwise
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Old Dec 17, 2007, 06:58 PM // 18:58   #744
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It's just a flesh wound is actually pretty decent, can clear off conditions fast.

Weaken Knees isn't that bad either, wouldn't say it's great. However it is a good cover enchantment and is food for [skill]Soul Barbs[/skill]

my vote goes for [skill]Primal Rage[/skill]
still horrible if it wasnt elite
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Old Dec 17, 2007, 08:09 PM // 20:09   #745
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I highly doubt ANet (or Izzy and the balancing team) will take time to go through all the unused elites (which is a lot) and attempt to make them better. Lots will still be pretty useless, some will be overpowered and nerfed to pretty useless, and a few may be useful.
also some elites by nature will just be either be way too overpowered or way too underpowered.

example. [skill]keystone signet[/skill]
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Old Dec 17, 2007, 08:10 PM // 20:10   #746
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also some elites by nature will just be either be way too overpowered or way too underpowered.

example. [skill]keystone signet[/skill]
Yeah, keystone signet is a great example. Before it was buffed, it was useless. When it got buffed, it was overpowered. When it got nerfed, it was useless. Theres really no in between for some elites.
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Old Dec 17, 2007, 10:19 PM // 22:19   #747
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primal rage might work for pve with some consumables like essence of celerity or pumpkin pies for IAS
then bringing a monk hero with [skill]Strength of Honor[/skill] and [skill]Judge's Insight[/skill]

but i have to agree with magikarp on changing primal rage into a skill, though.
[skill]Heket's Rampage[/skill] + [skill]Primal Rage[/skill] would probably work if that was the case.
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Old Dec 18, 2007, 12:13 AM // 00:13   #748
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Famine
Famine is pretty useless. Unless you have someone with e denial that can kee psomeone on 0 energy forever
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Old Dec 27, 2007, 01:28 AM // 01:28   #749
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[skill]balthazar's pendulum[/skill]

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Old Jan 01, 2008, 07:21 AM // 07:21   #750
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too bad my first elite skill was mind burn....at the end of the only GW that existed at the time...
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Old Jan 01, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11   #751
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Old Jan 01, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23   #752
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[skill]Simple Thievery[/skill]

2 non elite versions that replace spells, the elite replaces non spells. By far not the worst, but if you're a mesmer, are you taking this?
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Old Jan 02, 2008, 02:32 PM // 14:32   #753
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Old Jan 07, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54   #754
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Double dragon is pretty much useless
(sure it can do damage, but i cant think of a build where it is the best elite to use)
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Old Jan 08, 2008, 12:18 AM // 00:18   #755
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Double dragon is pretty much useless
(sure it can do damage, but i cant think of a build where it is the best elite to use)
I guess you could toy around with shadow steps, Winter's Embrace and Double Dragon. It's theoretically viable but gimmicky at best.

[skill]equinox[/skill]

lolwut? They should add damage whenever a creature gains exhaustion.
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Old Jan 08, 2008, 12:27 AM // 00:27   #756
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You've never seen a TA/GvG team with Arcane Languor + Famine? It's way more difficult to counter than NR/Tranq, if your mesmer is decent.

Life Sheath was gud when BoonProt was gud. Better than Mantra of Recall, anyway. But, it's just useless nowadays.

"It's Just A Flesh Wound!" is gud for Paraway, better than Draw Conditions anyway, don't know if its worth the Elite status.

Balthazar's Pendulum is bad, Simple Thievery is bad, Primal Rage is bad, Whirling Axe is bad, but the worst skill in the game, bar none, not even non-elites is definitely Archer's Signet
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Old Jan 08, 2008, 12:35 AM // 00:35   #757
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[skill]Stone Sheath[/skill] is pretty weak and a useless elite, right now, it's competitive with an empty skill slot and [skill]equinox[/skill] is even worse.
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Old Jan 08, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23   #758
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that sin skil wamstrels collaspe is pretty....useless.
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tease

so bad...
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[skill]balthazar's pendulum[/skill]

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like to run it on a smit monk

immunity to knockdown, yes please
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